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Copyright: Gerhard Theron (gerhardt) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1942 W: 246 N: 4106] (11607)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2004-10-05
Categories: Spiders
Camera: Canon EOS 300D, Canon EFS 18-55mm, Hoya UV - 58mm
Exposure: f/5.6, 1/60 seconds
Details: (Fill) Flash: Yes
Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): Araneae (Spiders), Things in and around my house. [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2004-10-07 4:12
Viewed: 3159
Points: 17
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Spiny-legged sac spiders

Family: Liocranidae This family consists of 41 genera of which 11 occur in the Afrotropical Region and 8 genera and about 20 species in Southern Africa. This family has not been well studied or documented in Africa.
They are wanderers (ground dwellers); nocturnal free-running spiders; and are very rare. They are between 3-15 mm. This spider family does not spin webs.

Diagnostic characters
colour: varies from pale yellow, with indistinct patterns on the abdomen to uniform reddish yellow or blackish brown without patterns; carapace: as wide as long or longer than wide and narrower in eye area; eyes: 8 in 2 rows (4:4), sometimes reduced to 4; abdomen: oval with dorsal scutum sometimes present; legs: 2 claws with tibia and metatarsus I and II armed below with a biserial row of numerous long spines with distinct bases.

Habitat
Liocranids are free-living ground spiders with diverse life styles. Although some genera are found only in forest litter, others occur in savanna, grassland and even desert regions. Very little is known about their behaviour. They seem to have diverse life styles. Many species among them members of Hortipes, a recently described genus, are found in forests in high numbers in leaf litter on the forest floor. Males and females of Andromma raffrayi have been collected from the nests of the ant Plagiolepis custodiens in the Western Cape Province, South Africa. They prey on ground-living insects and other invertebrates. Nothing is known about the effect of their venom on humans.

I found this one in a fruit tree in my garden. It just did not want to give me a suitable pose. It was hunting; I presume lacewings because they were in abundance. Anyway I used the same folding paper technique for diffusing the flash than in previous shot. I posted this one because of the lovely patterns on the body. I might run into her again and then get a facial shot.

RAP, marhowie, PDP, extramundi, japie, carper, Callie, Luc, deud has marked this note useful
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To marhowie: Extra detailsgerhardt 4 10-07 09:41
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Hi Gerhard. I like this photo for the colors and the subject. I guess you know, but it would be stronger if you had been able to capture it more head on, as it is, the head is not quite in focus and not really prominent in the photo. Good shot overall though.

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  • RAP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2524 W: 345 N: 2373] (7405)
  • [2004-10-07 6:36]

Coincido parcialmente con la opinion de Darren... el DOF no permite visualizar la cabeza de la araņa, pero la belleza de la misma, junto con una muy buena composicion, amerita su publicacion, ademas de una excelente nota.

I partially agree with opinion of Darren... the DOF does not allow to visualize the head of the spider, but the beauty of the same one, along with a very good composition, deserv its publication, besides of an excellent note.

Overall it's a good shot Gerhard. Don't know if you shot this with tripod or hand-held? Was it dark outside?? Was the spider moving??? Your shutter-speed indicates the probable cause for your soft-focus in this case..But you new this right!

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  • PDP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 2821 W: 344 N: 3779] (11769)
  • [2004-10-07 8:50]

Gerhard, It's a shame and I'm sorry it is not up to your usual high standard but it is a very attravive looking spider and I'm glad you posted it. Good work and note too.

That 5.6 is a bit to small to get such a closer macro of this spider. Maybe better force F and make a more moody shot, but is a personal preference :)
Good note.

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  • japie Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1814 W: 100 N: 1904] (5187)
  • [2004-10-07 11:20]

3 - 15 mm!! You came pretty close to this one. The colors are good but at f5.6 the spider is bigger than your DOF. Like Callie told me "Welcome to the world of minimal DOF" I like this shot and I hope you go out to hunt the hunter and get a facial.

Groetnis

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  • Callie Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1107 W: 96 N: 2611] (7551)
  • [2004-10-07 14:04]

Hi Gerhard
I like the totem pole figur on the abdomen, what is what this picture is really about. I now can see the problem clearly on my monitor, and the cure is as I wrote to you. The idea is to experiment, from f16 and smaller, with flash, with a spotlight and no flash, etc, there are ways nd means, and each subject is different. Nice note too.

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  • carper Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1974 W: 119 N: 2581] (8432)
  • [2004-10-07 14:21]

I am glad I am not the only one, who have to do a little step back. It's a little out of focus, and the composition can better.
Even in het Nederlands. Je moet jezelf willen verbeteren, waarom zeg ik dit. Dat je hier van kan leren en op het moment dat jij een dergelijke foto maakt niet meer hoeft te denken, van hoe zou ik hem nemen. Nee het dient een automatisme te worden. Dan ga je je verbeteren. Ik zie het aan velen hier. Door het maken van foto's leren zij bij en het niveau gaat dan ook omhoog. Dat heb ik bij jou ook al gezien.
Enough I hope you untherstand me. The note is great.

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  • deud Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 439 W: 11 N: 528] (2508)
  • [2004-10-09 2:15]

Nice specimen. Maybe if you use an aperture 8 or 11, you get more focus. Anyway, good picture.

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