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Age before Beauty

Age before Beauty
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Copyright: Ivan Kruys (Argus) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5038 W: 260 N: 15594] (50626)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-07-26
Categories: Insects
Camera: Canon 400D, Canon EF 300 f4L + Canon 1.4 converter
Exposure: f/7.1, 1/250 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): Passion Unlimited [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2007-08-08 4:00
Viewed: 2932
Points: 68
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
The freshest male does not always get to mate a female. Here a very worn and tattered male Silver-washed Fritillary (Argynnis paphia) succeeded in mating with a fresh female, much to the frustration of another much fresher male that arrived too late.

You can see how the fresh male is trying to direct the tip of his abdomen towards the female, but without success as the old male is already attached.
After a few seconds trying he flew away.

The genes of old male may be good to have as he survived several days of heavy rain.

This shot was taken at a distance of about 2 meters and is presented not for any special technical merits but to show a little of the struggle for survival.

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hello Ivan,

nice shot, this post of yours has concluded my theme Passion Unlimited as its the 100th shot of the mentioned theme,

This is a nice and interesting capture of the mating butterflies with a spectator, i liked the pov and the composition of the post, the dull green bg gives good contrast to the colourful insects,
well done,
tfs & regards

Hi Ivan,
you have captured a great action of these three buttrflies.
The old one looks to be in very bad condition but as youm say
age before beauty,
Good sharpness, fine details and nice colours.
Well done.

en mycket varm dag igen, igår var det så varmt så att fjärilar
höll sig stilla ;-)

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2007-08-08 4:59]

Hi Ivan.
What a nice scene you have pictured. Its colour palette, combination of sharp and blurred aeries, amazing details and beauty of the butterflies (and leaves) impress the imagination. Excellent job. My compliments and TFS.

selam ivan , wow excellent shot and very good composition of this lovely b.flies nice pov and bg with splendid colours.great work
Well done my friend !
Regards ridvan

Cool action shot, Ivan!
Interesting notes and as Gert said this butterfly was in bad condition.

...Jag är på väg till Öland den 17-de och hoppas att vädret blir bra :)

Hi Ivan,
Nice capture of these copulating BFs.Good POV,DOF and compo.
Congrats and TFS

Hi Ivan
Fantastic photo. Very nice colors, fantastic delicate buckground (but little bit noisy). Great sharp presentation of A. paphia group and interesting note.
Best wishes

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  • MMM Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1114 W: 0 N: 2546] (11425)
  • [2007-08-08 6:44]

Hi Ivan
Excellent capture.Nice composition and sharp image with beautiful colors.
TFS Michel

hi ivan,

terrible sharpness on both!GREAT!!!!great colors and details.

leuk jou ook weer te zien Ivan.
prachtige paar foto, goede pov, mooie details en uitstekend fotowerk hier, mijn complimenten.
groet Jaap

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  • jaycee Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2454 W: 10 N: 8044] (25460)
  • [2007-08-08 8:47]

Hi Ivan,

I think this shot has technical merits! An amazing shot with the perfect title and excellent notes. A wonderful slice of butterfly life! You captured all three with great detail. The leaves make a beautiful setting.


Hello Ivan,
Nice seeing this interesting scene. The 3 butterflies are well in focus. Also thanks for your informative note. Very well done and tfs.

Hello Ivan,
Extraordinary and subtle compo.
Well done

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  • nglen Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2883 W: 30 N: 9683] (36145)
  • [2007-08-08 13:12]

Hi Ivan.as you say the old male survived the rains and won the day. you picture shows the nice markings they have. with good colours. and a nice pOV. well done TFS. good interesting notes thanks. Nick..

Hello Ivan,
Excellent composition with perfect sharpness, vivid colour and details
best pov with exposure and focus

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  • Juyona Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 2232 W: 10 N: 2971] (16891)
  • [2007-08-08 15:38]

Hola Rob,
captura insólita,
detalles y pov,
bellos colores original compo.

Hello Ivan,
Lovely details in this interesting composition!
For some reason three looks better than two or four, which yuou make well use of in this fine composition...
Attractive natural colours and sharp fine details in this amazing situation!
Pablo -

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  • SelenE Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2249 W: 65 N: 4205] (13972)
  • [2007-08-09 0:42]

Hi Ivan,
This is a nice and an interesting photo of this group.I like the behaviour you showed us, and thanks for the informative notes. Focus, sharpness and composition are very nice.TFS
Best wishes,

Hi Ivan,
An excellent capture showing the struggle in nature to survive. Very nicely composed and excellent details. Thanks a lot for sharing.

Dear Ivan,
I would like to say: bravo! bravo! bravo!
Not only a very good quality picture but also showing a "true life" of insects. Most photos on TN showing "perfect" butterflies, with all legs, parts of wings, ect. And thanks to these photos we can easy forget that in the insect world not everything can be seen in "pink colours" :) And here is the great exaple that even the beautiful butterflies are older and older...
As I noted above, I like your technique with all these: POV, DOF, sharpness, colours, ect., but this time the biggest point for the documentary aspect of image :)
My best regards and all the best!

Hi Ivan,
Excellent capture of the competition for the female. Great POV and colors. Glad to see the older experience male getting the prize. Well captured.


That's what I always say ;)
Excellent capture Ivan, great work.
The capture does show the struggle for survival very well..Good interest with the three, and the title says it all.

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  • gannu Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 988 W: 4 N: 3277] (14761)
  • [2007-08-09 5:32]

Ivan, Wonderful shot and such a lovely focus. The clarity is very good and also lighting. Ganesh

Absolutely beautiful!!! I love the activity here...so much happening, so many players. :)
It reminds us that beauty is not limited to perfection.

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  • Silke Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 729 W: 98 N: 1707] (5458)
  • [2007-08-09 19:50]

Superb colours and details on this trio
Fascinating to see them all together like this

What an interesting triology, Ivan :-)!
The old blighter despite his sorry condition is able to mate whereas the young one despite his great looks seems to be in a state of complete frustration over his failure :-).
A wonderful composition with sharp focus on the subjects.
Thanks for sharing and best regards.

Hello Ivan !
This one the most beautiful didn't win ! Maybe it's better like that, the old one is a survivor, he will transmit his strong genes to the next generation ! :-) The picture is beautiful too, with excellent details, nice natural colors, beautiful composition and POV. I also appreciate to see the green side of the wings, I always get them with open wings on my own photos. Very well done !

Well, the worn male is definately demostrating the quality of his gens, despite of his "hard life" and war injuries, still strong and active :)
The shot is very nice and controlled, the moment captured and composition very interesting.
Thanks and best regards, Felipe.

Great shot of this A. paphia.
Good light and contrasts.

Gracias Ivan por tus observaciones y corrección de mi Rhinocoris; realmente mejora mucho tu trabajo. He de decirte que no utilizo ningún programa informático de retoque ya que soy muy torpe en esto y no se ni utilizar photoshop ...
Tu fotografía un bello juego de formas y colores
con una buena profundidad. Saludos.

Preciosos colores los de estas mariposas.
Perfecto encuadre y deliciosas las texturas de las alas perfectamente plasmadas en tu imagen.
Saludos Iván, JL.

Hello Ivan,

Very unusual picture. Great colours and sharpness.
BTW: thanks for the correction my Satyrium spini ;-D


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  • Debz Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 505 W: 0 N: 847] (3307)
  • [2007-08-25 5:39]

Hi Ivan, this is a very elegant composition, the younger Butterfly in the foreground is beautiful. Great focus with great detail and shaprness. Light and colours perfect. Great composition.

Bonsoir Ivan
splendid ! !
it is really a chance to have 3 butterflies of the same species on the same flower.
Beautiful photography!
In a friendly way

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