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Little Ugly One (Loch Etive)

Little Ugly One (Loch Etive)
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Copyright: Niek Bouwen (SunToucher) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2385 W: 237 N: 3033] (11162)
Genre: Landscapes
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-07-15
Categories: Seascape, Mountain, Sky
Camera: Canon EOS 350D, Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC EX HSM, B+W 77mm CIRC. POLARIZER MRC
Exposure: f/16, 1/30 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Travelogue: Summer vacation 2007: Scotland
Theme(s): Reflections [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2007-08-18 2:14
Viewed: 4108
Points: 48
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
I am not so sure about this photo. Somehow I am not getting the good feeling with this photo that I normally have. It might be the static composition or the dark mountain and cloud. But, it could be me. I haven't been feeling well this last week and I am still feeling a little weak.

Anyway, this is my photo from the trip to Loch Etive. You've already seen Emma's version and I am sure that much of what you see here, you can see in her photo as well.

TO make it a bit easy on myself, I copied some information on the loch from Wikipedia:

Loch Etive (Scottish Gaelic, Loch Eite) is a 30 km sea loch in Argyll and Bute, Scotland. It reaches the sea at Connel, 5 km north of Oban. It measures 31.6 km (19 3/4 miles) in length and from 1.2 km (3/4 mile) to 1.6 km (1 mile) in width.

The name Etive is believed to mean little ugly one from the Gaelic Goddess associated with the loch. It heads east for half its length alongside the main road and rail link to Oban, before heading northeast into mountainous terrain. A road along Glen Etive makes the head of the loch accessible from Glen Coe. The loch, being higher than sea level, together with its narrow mouth, results in its most unusual feature, the Falls of Lora. Part of the north bank has been designated a Special Area of Conservation in particular due to old sessile oak woods. Surprisingly, a small colony of around 20 common seals is resident in Loch Etive.

I have no idea if I used a filter or not. Most of the time and I am good at remembering what filter I used with each photo, but today I just can't. I am going to guess it was a CP filter.

jmirah, gracious, Silke, Evelynn, Matt-Bird, eqshannon, PaulH, mbasil, hester, SelenE, BLR, mlines, XOTAELE has marked this note useful
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Hi Niek,
A fine photo. The color is fabulous and the reflection, mirrior like. The composition draws you into the center. Very well captured.


Hello Niek,
my compliment on this excellent composition of landscape photo!
great sense of depth with perfect sharpness and details
you have everything that a landscape photo asking for, mountain, sky, cloud, lake, etc.,
thanks for sharing

p/s will try my new grad ND n CP

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  • Silke Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 729 W: 98 N: 1707] (5458)
  • [2007-08-18 8:03]

It may very well be that the darker tones make you uncomfortable or, as you say: the static "square" composition.
Nonetheless I like the mood here

Hello Niek,
Une très belle prise de vue,j'aime ces tonalités bien contrastées.Le miroitement des nuages est remarquable.

Hello Niek,
A lovely image, capturing that somewhat sinister mood I'm sure existed around the lake at this particular time...
Well composed presentation, and the calmness of the water is awesome, almost like warning about worse weather to come!
Pablo -

Hi Niek. Hope you are feeling a bit better. The image is a bit dark... to match your mood... but there are bright spots too... so thing are "looking up" as they say.

I doubt that you used any filter on this shot. The lights seem equally bright in the sky and in the reflection. The polarizer, if you used one, wasn't set for much effect, as the sky is not really very saturated with a CP effect... and the reflections are sharp. The glasslike water surface is really special.

I tried a different crop just for fun. I didn't touch the values or anything, just did a crop.

Hi Niek,

For my part I love the mood of this evening picture. Superb contrast and water reflection. The play of light is nice with the dark portion and the sun shined part in the BG. I also like the wooden structure in the composition. TFS.

PC :)

Hi Niek,
Perfect weather conditions for taking a photo by the looks that water is dead calm and has allowed you to get an almost perfect reflection in the water. The reflection of the mountain and the actual mountain itself on the left of the photo makes for some good leading lines in your photo.

Hi Niek,
I love the shot - the change of light and colours, the mystic atmosphere, everything is wonderful. The sticks in the back are the eyecatcher and give life to the shot. Thanks and greetings
Sabine - wishnugaruda

Hi Niek

Sorry to hear you are not feeling great either... In some ways I prefer you version to mine, but the colours are a little out of both our pictures I think... but the light down Loch Etive is always very difficult becuase of the steep mountains on both sides...

You did have the CP filter on for most, if not all of the shots of Loch Etive, it was what was needed whilst we were there...

Anyhow, I love the reflection in yours, you can see more of the detail of the bottom of the loch which just adds that little something extra rather than being a straight refelction and the seaweed is better placed in your picture.

Hope you feel better soon..


Perfect symetry from the one who knows..you! It is almost a mathematical equation of duality. Great science as well as fine click!


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  • PaulH Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1137 W: 26 N: 3879] (13882)
  • [2007-08-19 12:03]

Hi Niek,
well it works for me. Both dark and bright areas in this shot combine to demonstrate the vastly changeable weather that you i'm sure experienced in Scotland first hand. The symmetry is well composed around the frame to make the most of the cloud layout and of course, it'd clear andd sharp throughout.
Sorry to hear you've not been at your best, hope you're week ahead is a much better one.

WOW! this is beautiful! I have to go there myself ;-)

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  • mbasil Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 335 W: 148 N: 745] (3320)
  • [2007-08-20 21:26]

Kida freaky, Niek! The structure and the hills on the right are a bit surreal. And then the minimalist setting with reflection on the left seems like a completely different kind of a feeling. I think it's a good record of what you saw, but I can see how it's a little confusing and unsettling. Maybe a composition with the structure on the left, or a tighter shot? Hmm, this one may give me nightmares...

hi niek,

at first sight i said "wow"!!!it is an absolutely stunning POV of a landscape!the darkness on the left disturbs me a little but anyway great image!

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  • EOSF1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1393 W: 119 N: 5267] (23955)
  • [2007-08-21 13:52]

Hello Niek ! I really like your composition, it makes a great image. Nice reflections, well balanced compostion, sharp with a lot of details. Thanks !


Hello Niek.
You should feel good about it, it's beautiful. Yes it's a little diffrent to Emmas, but the reflections are awesome. The dark mountain in my opinion adds a dramatic feel to the scene. And I like the silhouette of that structure and the cloud shaddows on the hillside. I hope this makes you feel better. Hope you're well soon.
Best regards, Steve.

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  • hester Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1515 W: 18 N: 3165] (11638)
  • [2007-08-22 12:55]

Hi Niek

I am sorry to hear that you have been poorly but I'm glad to hear that now you are on the road to recovery.

I don't know why you are not sure of this shot. I like it a lot. It has a eerie feel to it. The way the light falls draws the eye right to the centre.

Take care, have lots of rest and drink plenty of water



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  • SelenE Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2249 W: 65 N: 4205] (13972)
  • [2007-08-24 5:55]

Hi Niek,
It's a very nice photo of this lovely place. Colors, POV, reflections and composition look very good. TFS
Have a nice weekend,

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  • arfer Gold Star Critiquer [C: 2731 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2007-08-25 22:51]

Hello Niek

I love the POV and perspective of this shot.The reflections are amazing.Very nicely composed with clarity and sharpness.TFS


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  • BLR (26)
  • [2007-08-27 15:00]

Hey Niek,

The title is totally wrong! (Though I know your note is talking about something other than the image itself...) Your feelings about this image are false, because I think this is perfect. The clouds add a nice touch of dramatics.... furthermore the colours and the POV all increase the aesthetic value of this scene. Really beautiful place/image, I'd love to see it with my own eyes one day! TFS.


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  • mlines Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 556 W: 26 N: 668] (3116)
  • [2007-08-28 14:53]

Hi Niek. Not too much ugly about this scenery! It is a well composed lake view with perfect reflections which are always a good thing to enhance any photo. Sharp as a pin. TFS. Murray.

Hola Niek,
unos reflejos preciosos.
Buenos colores y excepional luz.
Saludos amigo, JL.

Hallo Niek,

Is een schitterende landschapsfoto. De kleurstelling is magnefiek. Al die details, je weet gewoon niet waar je moet kijken. Erg opvallend zijn de omhoog gaande lijnen in het linkerrotsmassief. Om nog maar niet te spreken van het spiegel effect in het meer. De kleuren zijn zoals ze horen te zijn. Natuurlijk, soms zelfs sereen, dan weer glashelder. De donkere lucht linksboven geeft aan het geheel iets dramatisch. Maar als je dan weer naar de heldere lucht erachter kijkt valt dat gelijk weer weg. Evelynn heeft een goede workshop gemaakt, maar het dramatische van de donkere lucht is bij haar verloren gegaan. Is eigenlijk een beetje jammer van die drijvende bladeren/takjes op de voorgrond. Maar eigenlijk ook weer niet want het is natuur en dat hoort erbij, vind ik. Uitstekend plaatje. Prettige dag en tot TFS Bob

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