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Double Anatolian beauties

Double Anatolian beauties
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Copyright: Bayram Gocmen (boreocypriensis) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 6774 W: 207 N: 2989] (9571)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2010-03-29
Categories: Amphibians
Camera: Nikon D-80, AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G IF-ED, SIGMA 62MM EX DG MC UV Filter
Exposure: f/20.0, 1/160 seconds
Details: (Fill) Flash: Yes
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Date Submitted: 2010-06-05 1:47
Viewed: 10031
Points: 52
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Lyciasalamandra fazilae (Fazıla’s Lycian salamander) [In Turk. Fazıla’nın Kara Semenderi) (Females)

Today i am presenting double Anatolian tailed lady as a main shot and also a very young, funny lady with an opened-mouth ready to capture a fly meal:) as a WS from the same location (Dalyan, Muğla province).

Here i’ve used different camera settings. May be you can say which one is better!

TFL and have a nice Saturday!


©Bayram GÖÇMEN, All Rights Reserved.


This terrestrial tailed-amphibian beauty is restricted to the southern Anatolian coast, Turkey, where it is found from north-west of Fethiye to the eastern shore of Köyceğiz Gölü (Koycegiz Lake). It is also found on the islands of Tersane and Domuz. It ranges from sea level up to 1,000m asl. Its natural habitats are temperate forests and Mediterranean-type shrubby vegetation. It is threatened by habitat loss. The species is viviparous, producing one or two fully metamorphosed young; the gestation period is about one year.

This taxon was formerly considered to be a subspecies of Mertensiella lushchani. It has been elevated to species level, and assigned to the genus Lyciasalamandra. The genus with 7 species (L. luschani-from Fethiye, Dodurga, Kaş & Finike, Meyisti & Kekova islands) , L. atifi-from Alanya (Türbelinaz) to Akseki, L. antalyana- from Antalya (around Yağca Köyü, Kedetler), L. billae-from Kale (Antalya), L. fazilae, L. flavimembris- from Marmaris (Muğla) and L. helverseni-Carpatos island) ranges from Greece to the south and southwest of Turkey as well as some islands including Meyisti, Kekova (Tristoma) and Carpathos.

Fazıla’s Lycian salamander differs from all other Lycian salamander species and subspecies (L. l. luschani, L. l. basoglui & L. l. finikensis) by its ground colour and pattern. In adult animals the upper side of head and trunk is orange red. The maculations on the head and back are light brown to dark brown, of irregular shape and size, but usually not so widespread as to hide the red ground colour. The total maximal length is 14.1 cm.


1. Göçmen, B. (Unpub. results). The results of herpetological trips.
2. Başoğlu, M. & Atatür, M.(1974). The subspecific division of the Lycian Salamander, .Mertensiella luschani (Steindachner) in Southwestern Anatolia. Istanbul Üniv. Fen Fak. Mec. Seri B, 39 (3-4): 147-155.
3. Başoğlu, M. & Atatür, M. (1975). A new population of the Lycian Salamander, .Mertensiella luschani (Steindachner) from Finike in Southwestern Anatolia. Istanbul Üniv. Fen Fak. Mec. Seri B, 40 (1-4): 89-93.
4. Veith, M. & Steinfartz, S. (2004). When non-monophyly results in taxonomic consequences – the case Mertensiella within the Salamandridae (Amphibia: Urodela). Salamandra, 40 (1): 67-80..
5. Budak, A. & Göçmen, B. (2005). Herpetology. Ege Üniversitesi Fen Fakültesi Kitaplar Serisi, No. 194, Ege Üniversitesi Basimevi, Bornova-Izmir, 226 pp. [2nd Edition, 2008].
6. Franzen, M., Bußmann, M., Kordges, T. & Thiesmeier, B. (2008). Die Amphibien und Reptilien der Südwest-Turkei. Supplement der Zeitschrift für Feldherpetologie 14, Laurenti Verlag, Bielefeld, Germany, 328pp.

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Ohhh... ne güzeller hocam. Askerdeyken kaçırmışım ben bu güzellikleri. İnşallah seneye artık.
WS'deki ağzını gerçektende komik açmış:) Emeğinize sağlık hocam.

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  • PeterZ Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5137 W: 166 N: 13121] (49139)
  • [2010-06-05 2:48]

Hello Bayram,
Another very beautiful photo in warm colours. Two salamanders in a gorgeous environment. Good sharpness, details, POV and composition. Another superb photo in the WS.

Ciao Bayram, great capture of lovely couple, buautiful salamander with open mouth in the WS, wonderful natural anbientation, good natural colors, splendid sharpness and fine details, very well done my friend, ciao Silvio

nice couple, TFS Ori

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  • Adanac Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1273 W: 1 N: 6188] (21378)
  • [2010-06-05 5:17]

Hello Bayram,
Two fantastic shots for sure, but I personally like the workshop image best. Great work my friend displaying these wonderful salamanders for us to see.

Bayram hocam hepsi de güzel. Ama sanki bu hepsinden daha güzel:)
Emeğinize sağlık. Saygılarımla.

Dear Prof Bayram, I just went through your revised profile and was deeply distressed to know that you underwent an intense sense of frustration and despair through some unfortunate events/reactions occuring on TN. It just so happened that in the past one year, I could not remain active here due to my taxing job responsibilities and was thus unaware of these developments.
However, I must admit that I do agree with some of your observations on the current scenario on TN. The essence of this site that emerged strongly in the initial years of its existence has, without any doubt, disappeared almost completely now.
Nevertheless, it is my strong conviction that serious-minded nature lovers will remain impervious to negative influences creeping into TN. I am happy that after a rather impulsive reaction of scrapping your great work from the site (forgive me for my frankness) you have resumed to post your pictures again.
Your specialization in reptiles becomes more than manifest in this picture of two Anatolian lizards basking in the sun.
Keep the positive spirit up, my friend. Life must go on.
Warm regards.

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  • nagraj Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1618 W: 106 N: 3208] (15166)
  • [2010-06-05 6:15]

Beautiful presentation of these lovely species with invaluable notes. tfs.

hello Bayram

muy favorite photo of this series it is the one with
the opened-mouth, you shoot it at the best moment,
i love the way it is framed on the photo and the very
beautiful eye-contact that has with you, TFS


hello bayram
super picture with two beauty,s this time
great details and beautiful colours
very nice shot
greeting lou

Dayi harika ikili. cok sevimli duruyorlar.
Ellerine saglik.
Selamlar. Kib!

Hello mon ami Bayram,

Ô!!! Quelle capture fantastique.
Grands détails, superbes couleurs vernissées.
Joli WS.
Mes compliments pour ces clichés fantastiques.
Belle journée à vous.

canim kardesim kerenkele gibi duran ama kurbaga oldugunu ogrendigim bu sevimli seyleri cok guzel cekmissin.
Herzamanki gibi harika notlar ile sunmussun... Ellerine saglik.. Hepimizden selamlar.

İyi akşamlar Bayram dostum,
Those two beauties have so nice colours! Composition is exceptionnal, in natural habitat, of course. Great sharpness too, as usual. A friendly dedication too, MF! Have a nice sunday,

Hello Bayram,
Nice capture with the two salamanders. Interesting colours and very good focus.

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  • cirano Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 997 W: 0 N: 944] (13609)
  • [2010-06-05 14:19]

Dostum merhaba,
Bir güzel ve kaliteli kare daha senden.Kurbağa olduklarına inanmak ne kadar da zor.WS deki yüz şekli ile türünü eleveriyor biraz.Böyle şaşırtan, etkileyici fotoğrafları seviyorum.Eline emeğine sağlık dostum.
Bi slavên germ,

Bonjour Bayram
Tu nous offres toujours des prises de vue très originales.
Ces Salamandres originaires de Turquie sont de beaux spécimen
Merci et bravo pour cette découverte

Merhaba Bayram,
I agree fully with Ram about the disappointment, TrekNature losing all your valuable contributions. All this happened while I was ill - and I am amazed.

Living in an arid area, I never see Salamanders and did a bit of reading... and found it very interesting, that

many salamanders are blind (living in caves); the Hellbender (North America) hides the eggs under a stone and defends them agains intruder as well as against his own family; Tiger Salamanders trick a female - who is busy picking up a spermpackage from her chosen suitor - by quickly positioning his own sperm package on top...

Your picture is fascinating, showing the protruding (frog-like) eyes of the Ladies. Is there a theory, why their and the frogs'eyes are sticking out (or do they all have a thyroid problem?)

I also notice on the right front leg of the animal on the left, that it has some sort of warts or is it a parasite?

I do prefer the Workshop image - do not know enough about settings:-) - but because it shows the facial expression. But both photos are excellent from the technical point of view like ALL YOUR WORK.

Thanks for continuing to educate us amateurs.
Have a nice evening
Warm regards

PS: My Hard Disk needed reformatting, and I lost my Turkish lessons.

Ciao BBB. Special light and colours in a great compo which would have been better with an uniform BG. (Only my opinion). But you could not choose MF!


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  • bedri Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 111 W: 0 N: 237] (1284)
  • [2010-06-06 13:38]
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Emeğine sağlık hocam, tür süper. Bunları pek bilmiyorum bilirsin, ama şu var belli ki fark etmek ve fotoğraflamak zordur. Ellerine sağlık, sevgiler selamlar..

Merhaba Bayram
very interesting shot, i have never seen salamanders like this, and you have taken them with very sharp details and nice pose, i like also the natural environment with green moss, beautiful lighting and great color tones
Have a good night

Bayram hocam bu da çok güzel ama bence WS deki çok daha güzel.
Ağzı açık yakalamak kolay olmasa gerek. Emeğinize sağlık hocam. Saygılar.

Harika ikili,
En güzel dileklerimle,

Hocam süper. Keşke Kıbrıs'tada semender olsaydı. Çok özel kurbağalar bunlar. Elinize sağlık. Saygılar.

Ben bunları görsem kertenkele derdim. Ama sen kurbağa olduklarını söylüyorsun. Çok ilginç. Daha öğrenecek çok şey var senden. Ellerine sağlık.

Hellow Bayram,
Nice POV and a pleasant composition.The little salamanders have formed a soft yet clear ontrast to the greenish tones of the ground.

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