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Copyright: Grzegorz Wieczorek (red45) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2636 W: 74 N: 9091] (31094)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2005-06
Categories: Insects
Camera: Olympus 740UZ
Exposure: f/3.5, 1/30 seconds
Photo Version: Original Version
Date Submitted: 2005-12-18 4:21
Viewed: 4005
Points: 30
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Today something with more dark mood. I tried to ID this moth, I checked all my books, but without success, maybe TNers will help?

A moth is an insect closely related to the butterfly. Both are of the order Lepidoptera. The division of Lepidopterans into moths and butterflies is a popular taxonomy, not a scientific one. Sometimes the names "Rhopalocera" (butterflies) and "Heterocera" (moths) are used to formalise the popular distinction.

Most species of moths are nocturnal, but there are crepuscular and diurnal species. They can be distinguished from butterflies in several ways.

People who study butterflies and/or moths are called lepidopterists; the study of butterflies is known as butterflying, and the study of moths mothing, the latter giving rise to the term mother for someone who takes part in this activity sometimes written with a hyphen inserted (moth-er) or as moffer to distinguish it from the word for a female parent (in spoken English, confusion does not arise as the two are pronounced differently).

Moths are apparently attracted to light, or more specifically, are known to circle bright objects. The reason for this behaviour is not known. It may be moths navigate by maintaining a constant angular relationship to a bright celestial light (such as the moon), but on encountering a bright artificial light it navigates maintaining a constant angle to the light resulting in the moth flying in a spiral until it hits the light source.

However, researchers such as Henry Hsiao suggest the reason for moths circling lights has to do with a visual distortion called a Mach band. Henry Hsiao conjectures that moths, as nocturnal creatures, fly towards the darkest part of the sky in pursuit of safety. Moths are thus inclined to circle ambient objects in the Mach band region, usually at a radius of about one foot, depending on the species.

Night blooming flowers usually depend on moths (or bats) for pollination, and artificial lighting can draw moths away from the flowers, affecting the plant's ability to reproduce. Light pollution is coming under increasing scrutiny as a source of many subtle ecological changes.


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  • Janice Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3277 W: 148 N: 6163] (18832)
  • [2005-12-18 4:35]

Moths always charge at me when I'm in a room at night with them. I used to be petrified of them as a child. And now that I'm grown up(!!) I have lost the fear, but still don't like them.
This one does look like a ghost Greg, so pale and soft in colour. But it's a good composition, well done...

Great subtle lighting in the photo! Interesting wing pattern and indeed almost a ghost; good title. Composition and framing is very good, this photo has a good appeal. TFS!

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  • ddg Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 867 W: 24 N: 1008] (5507)
  • [2005-12-18 4:41]

Grzegorz bonjour, colors of this moth are splendid. Composition and sharpness are perfect. Good note too. Congratulations didier.

Hi Greg

Nicely composed. Great POV shoing good colours and detail. Nice light wil subtle colours. Excellent title and note. TFS.

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  • phlr Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1237 W: 130 N: 882] (2821)
  • [2005-12-18 4:57]

Fantastic macro!
Very good details!
No idea of the specie, but it could be a Geometridae.

Excellent moody lighting and very good details, my friend. I like very much how you show the soft colours and textures of the subject. Good composition and your standard framing works specially well on this one. Thanks and regards to you and Joanna.

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  • radz Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 598 W: 11 N: 72] (436)
  • [2005-12-18 7:12]

This is lovely composition.Old leave and lighting&framing the fly all very nice.

Hi Greg,
great shot, I cant help with the Id, but try this site http://www.leps.it

Good sharp detail and colours. Well composed and nicely exposed.
Good POV and notes. Thanks for posting.

Hi Greg,
Can't help with the ID, but I can admire the photo. Very saturated colors in this low light scene. Very sharp detail. This looks excellent.

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  • livios Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2150 W: 319 N: 4263] (16942)
  • [2005-12-18 20:26]

Grzegorz, great composition and pov.

The dark mood doesn't bother me.

Great details and pov too. Exposure is also great.

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  • Luc Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1835 W: 301 N: 4287] (14767)
  • [2005-12-18 22:30]

Personal assessment of the photo: very good.
Capacity of evocation in me: strong.
Strong visual impact.
Personal assessment of the note: complete.
Thank you very much mf Greg.

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  • Dave Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 503 W: 43 N: 657] (2178)
  • [2005-12-18 23:17]

I looked through the website Alan provided until I was exhausted. I got as far as:
Pyralidae Evergestinae
Evergestis forficalis (Linnaeus, 1758)
Garden Pebble Moth

But, I did not find your beautiful moth.
The website is amazing. I never knew there was such variety of these beautifully adorned creatures... A fashion designer could have plenty of material for fueling his/her creativity on this website... Simply awesome!
The "Ghost" is subtle and beautiful!

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  • dew77 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4432 W: 248 N: 4028] (13270)
  • [2005-12-19 8:30]

Hello Greg!
Very nice close up.Details,POV,framing and composition are wonderful.TFS...:-)

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  • Merlin Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 445 W: 267 N: 455] (1713)
  • [2005-12-19 11:48]

Hi, Greg:
Another "flying visit" before I disappear again! I know you will have worked out the family to which this moth belongs. I can get you as far as genus - Idaea sp but can't be certain of which (i'll avoid the obvious pun..). If I caught it in the UK I would unhesitatingly go for Idaea aversata, as your specimen seems to fit well within its range of variations, but in Poland you will have additional species that I am not familiar with. All these geometrids are, of course, extremely variable - which does not help at all!

Regards, Nigel.

Hello Greg!

Such a lovely moth, I very much like the colors and pose of this fellow.

Wonderful detail, lighting and composition.

A great job, thank you.

Merry Christmas to you and Joanna!!!

  • cedryk Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 967 W: 50 N: 1722] (5270)
  • [2005-12-20 20:38]

Hello Greg,
According to the species I agree with Nigel. There are 38 species of the genus Idaea in Poland. I browsed through them and this one looks like I. aversata.
Best greetings,

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