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The Unknown Butterfly

The Unknown Butterfly
Photo Information
Copyright: Scott Evers (scottevers7) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 2432 W: 3 N: 3894] (12309)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2005-10-06
Categories: Insects
Camera: Canon 20D, Canon 70-200 f2.8 L IS + EF 1.4X II, B+W UV MRC
Exposure: f/16, 1/60 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Date Submitted: 2006-01-25 22:30
Viewed: 4049
Points: 70
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Many of the butterfly shots I take never seem to satisfy me in one way or another. Something usually goes wrong, and when it all comes together and eveything looks good, the poor butterfly is one that is all ragged, nicked up, busted wings, and on his last day. So on this very rare occasion that it looks pretty decent, I do not know what speicies I have captured. I shot this at the St. Louis Zoo Insectarium, and then failed to look up the ID before leaving. So I put it in the archive, and finally tried to do the reasearch on the internet.

I am going to go out on a limb here and identify this butterfly as either a "California Sister" or a "Lorquin's Admiral" They are very similar, but I lean toward the admiral. Any of the TN members who are much better in this area than me please help if you can.

UPDATE: Nigel (Merlin) has correctly ID'd this as a Band-celled Sister. Thanks for the big assist!

I have been saving my pennies for that high quality macro lens, and hopefully by spring I can get it. Then maybe I can turn out some better quality insect shots.

petrudamsa, TAZ, Luc, Janice, phlr, wallhalla15, thistle, honza, red45, hummingbird24, marhowie, metcher, Athila, coasties, Merlin, ScottHale, dew77, fiyo, ellis49, PDP, CTP, cedryk, firelord has marked this note useful
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ThreadThread Starter Messages Updated
To Toucadoo: Thanks for the Tipscottevers7 1 01-26 18:30
To Merlin: Thanks for the proper IDscottevers7 2 01-26 18:18
To metcher: Spider with Wingsmarhowie 1 01-26 09:47
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  • manyee Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3089 W: 230 N: 6774] (23770)
  • [2006-01-26 0:42]

A beauty, Scott. Love the markings and colors on this butterfly.
Very sharp details and great composition. Well done and TFS. : )

Hello Scott,
I'll try to help you put a name to this beauty you photographed.
I don't think is Limenitis lorquini (Lorquin's Admiral) even it resembles much that species, because of the specie's range is on Pacific Coast, From CA to WA, going east only toward Montana. There is another species that looks similar (in fact looks like the one in your picture) called Limenitis bredowii or "Sister Butterfly" that ranges in the northen part thru Missouri. On this Limenitis species, the patterns on the underside of the wings would completly solve this problem.

Regards, Petru

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  • TAZ Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2241 W: 47 N: 3167] (10926)
  • [2006-01-26 1:24]

What a lovely and interesting butterfly that you have well captured ! I also appreciate the complementary note... Congratulations Scott and thanks for sharing.

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  • RII Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 481 W: 0 N: 895] (2862)
  • [2006-01-26 1:48]

Hi Scott.
Very nice photo, excellent details colors and composition.

Lovely colours - yes, slight of out focus in areas, but not distratcting. Well done

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  • Janice Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3277 W: 148 N: 6163] (18832)
  • [2006-01-26 3:04]

Hi Scott, whatever this b'fly is, you show him well. Nice and clear, good colours and details too. I enjoy reading your notes too...
Well done,

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  • phlr Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1237 W: 130 N: 882] (2821)
  • [2006-01-26 3:41]

Very goos photo!
Very good on details and colours!
Very good sharpness too!
Nice POV and BG!

___wonderfull composition... nice butterfly:)

Hi Scott,
Very nice close-up!
Excellent colour and detail, good lighting,
well composed, nice framing.
Thanks for sharing!

Great macro shot Scott, great sharpness, details and clarity, very nice POV and colours too! This is a great composition. Thanks for sharing.

Nice shot Scott!
The colours match well, details and lighting are very good. The tips of wings are a bit soft but that's a minor nit.
I like it.

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  • honza Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 533 W: 0 N: 720] (4197)
  • [2006-01-26 4:47]

Beautiful butterfly and its photo. Perfect composition, sharpness and colors.

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  • red45 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2636 W: 74 N: 9091] (31094)
  • [2006-01-26 5:23]

Hi Scott!

Very nice catch. Classic pose, good, green BG and light. Butterfly looks very good, lovely patterns on its wing. Maybe not in perfect condition, but still looks great ;-) I like both names, but Lorquin's Admiral is more adequate in my opinion ;-)

Hello Scott,

A wonderful capture of this b'fly.

I like the dark richness of its colors and classic pose.

I am pretty much a novice when it comes to these guys, so I can't help with ID...

Great job, thank you!

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  • Dando Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 637 W: 32 N: 792] (3084)
  • [2006-01-26 8:38]

Beautiful composition Scott. Great detail and texture and wonderful colours. TFS.

Great shot Scott. I pulled up an open-wing shot of the Ca. Sister and it is very similar..But most likely the admiral as you say. Well composed with very good colors, exposure and detail. Nicely OOF BG also..
Well done.

Hi, Scott.
Beautiful spider. Good exposure. Nice composition and colors.

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  • Athila Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 335 W: 239 N: 493] (1982)
  • [2006-01-26 10:16]

Hi Scott!

Pretty shot. I love exposure and composition. I know butterfly are not always easy to capture but here you snap the shutter release at a moment where wings were beautifully opened and extended. Excellent timing and POV.
Great shot and TFS.

Hi Scott,
This is a very nice composition of this beautifully colored butterfly. I'm not much good when it comes to identifying insects as their world is so diversified and seems almost infinite, however I can give you a tip. If I photograph exhibits that have lots of insects, I set my camera setting to the lowest file size(small jpeg) and photograph the identifying accompanying signs that represent the species so I can later on reference the insects(s) and plus it wont take up that much memory, however you have to make sure that you set your image capture size back to your file size preference when you are done. :)

Well done on this post Scott. Lovely close details. Pretty markings clearly seen on the wings. Real nice job here. Congrats!

Very close. This is the Band-celled Sister Adelpha fessonia. Nothing wrong with this shot!
Regards, Nigel.

After hearing about the incredible humidity from the Zoo staff member, I have gained a little respect for your superb ability to shoot in "less than perfect" conditions.
I like the composition and colors and the DOF is perfect. I know absolutley NOTHING about butterflies so I can't help you there.
I also can't wait for your new macro lens, you'll probably get lost in the microscopic world of bugs though. Isn't nature amazing!?
Great shot buddy,

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  • dew77 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4432 W: 248 N: 4028] (13270)
  • [2006-01-26 17:06]

Hello Scott!
Very nice close up.I liked POV,framing,lighting,
sharpness,details and composition a lot.

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  • fiyo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1053 W: 5 N: 3475] (15161)
  • [2006-01-26 20:18]

Hello Scott,
Very good macro,
Great colours, good details and composition
Well done

HI Scott,
this is a real beauty.
It's a maybe a bit soft but nevertheless a excellent shot.
The composition, colours and POV are very good.
Great work, my friend.

Maybe you could try to use an ext. tubes instead of a converter, I think it's better for close-ups.
I hope you get your macro-lens soon.

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  • sAner Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1455 W: 74 N: 1426] (4750)
  • [2006-01-27 1:59]

Hi Scott,

This is a beautiful butterfly and the colors are nice. the foucs looks a little soft though. Well composed. TFS!


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  • livios Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2150 W: 319 N: 4263] (16942)
  • [2006-01-27 14:01]

Scott, although this was not taken with a macro lens, I like the result. I have the feeling the shot could be a little bit sharper, but it's just an opinion.

It seems to me Gert's tip is nice.

I do enjoy colors, pov and composition. Lovely bg and contrast.

I hope you get your macro lens soon.

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  • PDP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 2821 W: 344 N: 3779] (11769)
  • [2006-01-27 14:25]

Hello Scott, nice shot. Good composition and very nice colours. Maybe a teeny bit soft in focus but not badly. Very well done.

Hello Scott,
You return with a very nice butterfly; good colors and composition. I think it´s not perfect in focus, but sometimes it is difficult to obtain it by the speed of these insects and because they are scared.

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  • Nico Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 199 W: 1 N: 335] (1321)
  • [2006-01-29 2:03]

This is a beautiful butterfly. Good close-up shot.

Nice shot! Beautiful image, the bright colours are fantastic, great photo, excellent work!
and many thanks for sharing!
I like so much!
The composition gear up for a very fine result.
this one is the best for me

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  • Luc Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1835 W: 301 N: 4287] (14767)
  • [2006-01-30 21:42]

Is this a good shot, IMHO? Yes, an excellent one.
Does the note learn me something new? Yes,
Does this photographer take an active part in the growth of the site? Yes.
What do I really feel by looking at this photograph? I look forward for Spring here.
Does this photograph help me to progress? Yes.

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  • CTP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 644 W: 6 N: 946] (2726)
  • [2006-02-02 13:48]

Hi Scott,
Excellent capture of this lovely butterfly my friend:)
Great pov,dof,colors,focus,sharpness and note.TFS

Hello Scott,
Another nice shot of butterfly :-)
Good, classic POV and sautration, focus a bit too soft.
Best greetings,

Hello Scott!
Extraordinarily beautiful picture!
I have had a quick glance at your portfolio and it is simply mind-blowing. Thanks for having a look at a picture of mine; I consider that a great honor from an artist of your caliber.

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