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Explain to me, please OKOEM (178)::2006-12-31 17:20
Why here 14000 viewings (also look points)- http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Asia/Russia/photo45927.htm

and here 500 viewings (and look points)- http://www.treknature.com/gallery/South_America/Argentina/photo84203.htm

It turns out, that the more you will write comments, the it is more points. Not interesting so.
Re: Explain to me, please/ Ok I will try Robbrown Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1184 W: 88 N: 2160] (6106)::2006-12-31 18:45
Hi Victor,
1st I will begin by sort of agreeing with you that the more you participate in TN the more people feel able to also leave critiques for an image, ( this is true for all 3 of the trek sites ) and is part of the way the 3 sites have developed because some people refuse to take part in the site only using it as a place to dump their images, (or so it feels to me).
On the other handthese 2 images you use as examples, the one with 500 viewings is from a long term member Ricardo who both generates 1st class posts completely in the way TN is supossed to be. he also critques and coresponsds with many member old and new so does tend to get a fairly high point count. but this image has not been up long so will not have accrude the large number of viewings tto point that the other has, mainly because after a certain amount of time after posting 2 things happen, 1 is that TN member will look at an image and probably not leave a critque, but 2nd and probably more important to the number of viewing is people dropping in from the results from a search engine especially like the spider where it is specifically named so sites like Google tend to display them quiet high up on the list when people go looking both for names and images of a subject or even places. Try it your self and see how many come up with one of the trek sites.
I hope this is some sort of answer to you question, Yours Robert
Re: Explain to me, please KiltedArab Silver Star Critiquer [C: 31 W: 1 N: 3] (7)::2006-12-31 21:48
Instead of criticizing those who make critiques, for whatever reason, why not criticize those who don't bother to critique at all?

I just dont understand why here, as well as on TL and TE, active members get the criticism but those who don't participate are not targetted.

For example, you have posted 18 images but not one single critique of another photograph.

In addition, the guidelines state "While there is no requirement that you do so, members are encouraged to provide roughly as many critiques as they receive. One way of accomplishing this is to look at the posts of those members who have provided feedback to you and consider returning the favor. "
Re: Explain to me, please OKOEM (178)::2007-01-01 0:57
There is such proverb in Russian which was born after competition of singers. The cuckoo, the cock and a nightingale participated. They also estimated themselves. The first place was occupied with the cock - FOR WHAT the CUCKOO PRAISES the COCK? THAT HE PRAISES the CUCKOO.
I ask to excuse for bad English. But I think, that the sense is clear. Similar mutual eulogy are present on ALL photographic resources. I think, that it does not promote increase of skill. That what for is necessary to that to study, if and so everyone praise. All depends from a free time of each person. Has praised other 100 photos - these 100 have praised you. And I here absolutely also have not found criticism. One of eulogy. That's all. I have fairly expressed the opinion.
Re: Explain to me, please KiltedArab Silver Star Critiquer [C: 31 W: 1 N: 3] (7)::2007-01-01 2:25
Criticize those who do not make critiques rather than those who do.

Again, I refer you to the guidelines of the site.
Re: Explain to me, please OKOEM (178)::2007-01-01 3:59
And I also criticize those who does not make critical analyses. And eulogy never were considered as the critical analysis. In guidelines a site it is written about CRITICISM, instead of about eulogy. So it I, instead of you have correctly read guidelines this site.
Re: Explain to me, please loot Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5524 W: 722 N: 4163] (11276)::2007-01-01 4:48
Ha-ha-ha, another Jimy Iron [poin_45].

Richard spare your breath. It is not worth it to get into the circular squabble this is leading to. It ends up in personal attacks and loads of direct e-mails that will try and point out how wrong you, the system, and the rules are. A lot of verbal diarrhoea.

I've had a very similar experience here on the forum with this type of discussion and it leads nowhere very fast.

Friendly regards.
Loot
Re: Explain to me, please Hil Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 696 W: 13 N: 1407] (5035)::2007-01-01 5:00
Hi Loot

Can I just say I agree totally, so I would just like to say Happy New Year Everyone.

Best Wishes
Hilary ;o)
Re: Explain to me, please KiltedArab Silver Star Critiquer [C: 31 W: 1 N: 3] (7)::2007-01-01 5:20
"While there is no requirement that you do so, members are encouraged to provide roughly as many critiques as they receive. One way of accomplishing this is to look at the posts of those members who have provided feedback to you and consider returning the favor. "

Can you please tell me how many critiques you have made and how many you have received?

Thanks!
Re: Explain to me, please KiltedArab Silver Star Critiquer [C: 31 W: 1 N: 3] (7)::2007-01-01 5:22
:-)

I have two very young children and a lot of patience as a result!

Yep, been through similar episodes on the other Trek sites with posters complaining about lack of attention without explaining why they feel justified in not giving out critiques themselves.

Sigh. Anyway, Happy New Year!
Re: Explain to me, please maheshpatil Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 89 W: 33 N: 227] (1237)::2007-01-04 5:56
Hi Victor,
Dont go after ponts here. Its like runnng after mirrage. You will get only frustration. If you beleive in yourself, you will be noticed. Dont seek attention like this. I have also gon through this phase where lots of my pictures didint get good points. Points do not prove an thing. There are lots of picture on TN which do not deseve points they got. But you cant do any thing.There is proverb n Geeta (Hindu Mytholgy)"Karm kar, fal ki asha mat kar.(Do your Karma-work, do not expect anyhing from that).

Wish you a very happy new year and great journey on TN.

Regards
Mahesh
Re: Explain to me, please maheshpatil Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 89 W: 33 N: 227] (1237)::2007-01-04 6:09
One more thing. Try to be a bit more interactive.Try to critique other pics too. I know sometimes its a bit difficult to get some tim out of work. but still.
Re: Explain to me, please RAP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2524 W: 345 N: 2373] (7405)::2007-01-05 17:28
Only I will make an explanation to be about helping... the better qualified picture of all those published have 2679 viewings until this moment with 305 points accumulated in a year and half of publication.

http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Middle_East/Turkey/photo25549.htm

The 14000 viewings of your image are without doubts an error of the TrekNature system.
Cordially... Ricardo