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Kiwi Meets African

Kiwi Meets African
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Copyright: Steve Reekie (LordPotty) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1381 W: 144 N: 3872] (12503)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2005-04-05
Categories: Insects
Camera: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ-2-S
Exposure: f/2.8, 1/125 seconds
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Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): Mantodea: Mantis [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2005-04-28 3:46
Viewed: 4057
Points: 40
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
I found mantids of two different species,New Zealand and African,near each other in my garden.
Before I knew it,the African one was on top.
I've since heard that the larger,but less aggressive New Zealand ones could be in danger of being dominated by the African,and it looks as though they could be right.
By the way... New Zealand mantis can be identified by the two dark bluish purple patches on the inside of each knee.
Africans are lighter in colour and thinner,except the fat ones.

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  • red45 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2636 W: 74 N: 9091] (31094)
  • [2005-04-28 3:52]
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I don't know why but I'm not big fan of mantis. They're too...insectoidal ;-) for me. Like aliens without any feelings - especially females eating males after copulation, brrrr! I know that spiders do the same but spiders are cool ;-) No logic? So what :-)
Great picture Steve! Moment is superb same as quality. Did you waited for next stage of this drama?

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  • Janice Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3277 W: 148 N: 6163] (18832)
  • [2005-04-28 4:03]

Yes Steve, In the latest North & South magazine there is an item about this new pest from SA. Our native Praying Mantis are being eaten and taken over by them. Are you sure you've got them right? I thought the bigger female was from SA.
Excellent shot, and as Greg said, did you seee if she killed him?

Get it right mate - "they is rugby players man!!!"

lol - well done - crisp, clear and lovely composition. Well done. Tim

Size doesnt matter ... right ... whatever they are doing ...

HI STEVE have to say that its the kiwi male giving the African female one.
i have a great hate for the African mantids.
i had one get in a lizard cage last year and it ate two baby geckos bigger that its self .
they even get into bird nests under the chicks and eat them while mum bird sits on them ....so for me a good ones a dead one.
great photo you should send it to the nz police they like these kind of poses in photos

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  • TAZ Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2241 W: 47 N: 3167] (10926)
  • [2005-04-28 4:47]

Belle et intéressante macro-photographie pour ces mantes en pleine intimité ;-) Jolies couleurs et bonne netteté.
Very Well Done !

Très belle scène de couple.
Bravo !

Excelent shot, Steve.
Well done on the details and composition. Excelent work. Your lighting is spot on. Imho, your best closeup.


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  • PDP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 2821 W: 344 N: 3779] (11769)
  • [2005-04-28 16:12]

Ha ha ha, I love the throw away domination comment in the note, very good. Great capture Steve it's a very nice shot and I think lately you are improving as a photographer, compare this shot with your earlier offerings and I hope you will be encouraged at your progress. Very nice job.

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  • Toni Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 403 W: 2 N: 316] (2034)
  • [2005-04-28 17:18]

Great macro Steve. You managed the focus perfectly which would not have been easy with so much green. Well captured.
Regards Toni

Of all the insects, Mantis are the ones I like the best. Don't mind picking them up and don't scream when they land on me and best of all I don't grab the fly spray and spray till their white! Good shot Steve. Crisp, clear and tack sharp. I have a mantis nest in the groove of my winow in the bath room. Not in a very good spot to photograph so i haven't bothered, but I am keeping a close watch on it. The female who laid the eggs was very very big and looked like the bottom mantis in your shot. Well done. Thanks

Very nice capture Steve tack sharp, great colours and good POV.
Well done.

Steve, every time I look at your photos I get even more impressed with the quality of work you submit. Exceptional exposure, details, POV and action. Really outstanding work on this capture. Very well done, you set a new standard for yourself with this post. :)

Hi Steve, maybe it is even more than just a meeting. Great picture, nice green colours and good light. Really nice! Nino

Thanks for the info, Steve. The male African IS trying to mate with the NZ female, isn't it? Would the female then also oeat the African male? Will they have fertile offspring? I would not have guessed that there are African mantids in NZ. Now I think we may have the same problem here. What is the latin for the African one and how can one tell if it is of that species? I have several mantid photos to upload! Frank in Jakarta, Indonesia

Pretty cool! Mantids are my favorite insects... I know they are a bit aggressive and can be a little heartless (the whole mating thing) but I don't know.... they are just so... cool looking... lol

This is a great capture, you were able to keep their entire bodies pretty much in focus, which isn't easy as they are so long. I do kind of wish the composition was a little different, maybe from the front more, but all in all, good work and TFS!! -Laurita

If they succeed you'll have to call the hybrids Zealfrican or Afriland Mantids. I'm sure a photo like this would be a great contribution to the scientific community. It is a great shot with a great DOF and excellent exposure. I'm curious how long Miomantis caffra was introduced to New Zealand? Paul :)

Hello Steve.

Excellent image, very good details and colors.
Great composition.

Jose Luis.

This is fantastic, Steve. The African lover boy and the cute New Zealand babe are mating in the most aesthetic pose I have ever seen :).
On a serious note, this is the second of your green ambience pictures I am looking at, and it is beautiful. The picture is remarkably sharp and extremely well composed.
It is a pleasure to go around to this picture you posted when I wasn't on TN yet.
Thanks for providing the link for it.

Hi Steeve,
Thanks for your comments, on this good photo we can really see the difference between the two species
I wonder what will come out from this mating and how will be the new NZ/African species
Best regards

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